Wednesday, July 29, 2015

Ray Yungen's Warnings: What's Wrong with Reiki

Ray Yungen's Warnings: What's Wrong with Reiki

Ray Yungen, author of A Time of Departing and For Many Shall Come in My Name,  has an outstanding five part series: "Questions on the New Age" that can be seen on You Tube.  In
Part Five the question is, "What is the major spearhead of the New Age spirituality?" Ray answers "energy healing." Ray then zeroes in on Reiki spelling out its dangers.  Filled with facts, and warnings this short video is well worth listening to.

Now, a small group, that meets in our home including a lady who did Reiki as well as two chiropractors, recently listened to Ray's video and here's what we learned:

Reiki is a popular form of "energy healing." 

How true, for Reiki is right here in our little Tennessee town.  I'll always recall the day my sweet beautician friend Bonnie* called saying, "They're going to do Rakki!"  "You mean "Reiki," I replied."  And she went on to tell me one of her young clients had been very ill, and they were going to try "Reiki."  "What can I do?" she inquired.  At the time, I recommended Jan Markell's "Understanding the Times" 2013 interview with Ray Yungen on Reiki.  Here it is:

Indeed, Reiki is all over.  Dr. B.*, in our group, knew of a close-by hospital that provides Reiki.  And it may be that a health center close to you is one of the 800 hospitals that Ray said now do this.  So be ready for Reiki at a venue near you from day spas to hospices!

*  Name changed.

Reiki is a Japanese word.

Reiki means "universal life," or "spiritual life."  In Japan it is a generic word associated with the occult.

Reiki is related to "the chakra system."

Yes, Reiki is related to the chakra energy points or, as Yungen puts it, those "spinning balls" of psychic energy beginning at the base of the spine right up to the top of your head.

Read Ray's chakra relationship to Reiki from his book Many Shall Come in My Name here:

Reiki is a conduit to opening oneself up to other forces.

After having Reiki, Ray emphasized, one is often more open to practicing yoga or meditation.
Changes set in.  The person feels led and guided more and more.  It is easy to shed or cast off old belief systems.  So, beware don't partake of Reiki.

Reiki is going to be used on someone you know.

Ray warned it is only a matter of time until Reiki will be done on a loved one, or friend.  And while I was talking about Reiki, just the other day, someone close to us shared they had been given a Reiki treatment, and had experienced great results.  I then, armed with Reiki info, went on to detail its dangers.

Reiki is touted by well-known adherents.

Ray mentions Reiki is taught by Dr. Mehmet Oz, and his wife Lisa who is a "Reiki Master."  That means Lisa has "Spirit Guides" who aid her as she performs Reiki.  Then, notes Ray, there's a Reiki proponent, Raven Keyes of NYC, who says, "We all have a right to our spirit guides."

Reiki is not Biblical, so beware!

Finally, at the end of the video Ray reminds us in Leviticus 19:31 it admonishes us not to turn to mediums who have familiar spirits, and not to seek their help,  "Consider this verse; look it up!" warns Ray.  And I would add one more word-- memorize it!

Learn to Discern Granny:   Leviticus 19:31

"Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the
the LORD your God."

For More Information:

Excellent Article:

Lighthouse Trails Booklet:

The Truth About Energy Healing by Ray Yungen

Sunday, July 26, 2015

Dr. Rob Reimer's River Dwellers Vs. Kevin Reeves' The Other Side of the River

Dr. Rob Reimer's River Dwellers Vs. Kevin Reeves' The Other Side of the River

Dr. Rob Reimer says pursue God passionately by immersing yourself in the River, while Kevin Reeves says pursue God passionately apart from the River.

What "River" is that?  We'll use Reeves' description which reads: "The River Revival movement--encompassing the Toronto Blessing, Brownsville Revival (or Pensacola Outpouring), Dominion, Latter Rain, Word of Faith, Rodney Howard-Browne's laughing revival, the Kansas City Prophets, and an arbitrary mix of all or some of the aforementioned--..." (p.22)

Purpose:  To enable the reader to understand there are dangers lurking in the River; and that they need to be aware of, and ready to confront these deceptions armed with Scripture.

Ezekiel 47:9: "Where the River Flows:"

Reimer's River References:  Reimer's first verse is Ezekiel 47:9:  "Where the river flows everything will live."  Reimer writes, "At the end of Ezekiel, the prophet receives a vision of water flowing and getting deeper and deeper, until finally it became a river Ezekiel could not cross."

Then, records Reimer, the Lord told Ezekiel that where the river flows everything would live.  Of this river Reimer relates, "It is the River of Life.  Jesus connected these Old Testament prophecies to the coming of the Holy Spirit.  He becomes in us that River of Life."  (pp.90-91)

Reeves' River References:  "Removed from its proper setting the 47th chapter of Ezekiel ... is used to promote a last days vision for the church.  In its proper context ... this wonderful prophecy is an en-couragement that God has not forgotten His covenant people of Israel.  But overstepping the sanctity of scriptural boundaries, this passage has been reshaped into the comfortable doctrines of easy be-
lievism and sensual manifestations that mark a shift in the church.  As believers we have taken a hairpin turn from the preeminence of the Word to a relative, experiential, and terrible apostate faith." 

Reeves on River Songs:  In the years after the Toronto Blessing Vineyard worship songs were filled with references to water.  Reeves writes, "A take off from the prophecy of Ezekiel 47, the symbol of the Holy Spirit became our gateway to the supernatural.  One song, we began singing ... told about a rushing torrent flowing from God to touch those who need reviving. ...  Another song that promoted spiritual drunkenness spoke of God's people asking for a drink of the Spirit ...." (p.162)

Quests for Impartations: Passing the Power:

Reimer's Impartation Reflections:  "There is a Biblical concept of impartation.  Jesus told his disciples, "Freely you have received, freely give." (Matthew 10:8)  Reimer states, "I love being prayed for and having people lay hands on me.  When I go to conferences or when I get around people of anointing and spiritual power I ask them to lay hands on me and to pray for me. ...  I've had people from evangelical and charismatic circles lay hands on me ... I've had world renown leaders pray for me, who were anointed by God and who impacted my life through their work. ..."  (pp.42-43)

Reeves' Impartation Reflections:  Reeves writes, "While the Bible does refer to an anointing (I John 2:27), it has in these days of sensual faith been contorted almost beyond recognition.  And as with so much of hyper-charismatic experience has been placed in the realm of something to be reached for, pursued, or worked up in order to be obtained." (p. 80)

Reeves further comments, "... some people ... are looked upon as being more anointed than others.  This naturally presupposes the necessity of making a journey to wherever they happen to be ministering in order to be touched by them, and consequently by God.  It is universally recognized by River adherents that the impartation is passed from person to person via the laying on of hands, and that belief has provoked a virtual scramble among regular church members to get to the preacher that has 'it'".  (pp. 80-81)

Randy Clark: Global Awakening:

Reimer References Clark:  In a June 16, 2013 sermon, Reimer revealed that he and his family would be going on a Brazil mission trip with the Randy Clark ministry where he planned to seek special impartation from Randy.  In this same sermon Reimer told of Heidi Baker's amazing impartation from Clark where she was "laid out" for seven days.  This 2013 Brazilian trip is noted twice in the book.  (pp.34,154)

Reeves References Clark:  Reeves names Clark in conjunction with the Toronto Blessing.  Reeves reflects, "... the Toronto Blessings official origin stems from a message preached by Randy Clark, who received his 'impartation' from Rodney Howard-Browne, who himself was holding services in Kenneth Hagin Jr.'s Rhema Bible Church in Tulsa in 1993.  Clark's messages in January 1994, at what was then the Toronto Airport Vineyard church, were the main catalyst for the doctrines, mani-
festations, and practices seen in the River movement today." (pp.12-13)

Global Awakening History:  "Of all the things Randy values, this ministry of 'impartation' is the most important to him. ...  He ... recognizes ... that the Kingdom of God will be more powerfully impacted by ministering a fresh impartation of the Spirit to pastors, leaders, and their people.  This causes a ripple-effect- for each pastor or leader who receives a powerful impartation, a multitude of oppor-
tunities open up for those pastors and laity to impact others."  (Global Awakening Web Site)

John Wimber: Vineyard Movement Founder:

Reimer on Wimber:  In regard to misusing or abusing a prophetic word Reimer quotes Wimber as once saying, "The answer is not disuse; it is right use."  He also cites a Wimber story taken from Power Evangelism where Wimber had the word "adultery" in his mind's eye that he explored with a man with whom he was traveling. (pp.55,67,81)

Reimer also tells (9-9-12) in his "Open Doors, Open Hearts" sermon how Dean Ron Walborn (ATS) had an impartation from Wimber that greatly increased his healing successes.  In another sermon (11-4-12) Reimer relates Wimber's "Honeycomb Vision."  On (3-8-2015) Reimer once more uses a Wimber example.

Reeves on Wimber:  Reeves writes that the two words for which Wimber is remembered has to be "paradigm shift."  Reeves notes, "It was the Vineyard magnate John Wimber who ushered into popularity the term paradigm shift ... or a major alteration in our method of approaching God and allowing Him to approach us.  The old study method is ... no longer adequate.  Indeed, says Reeves, "Experience is what counts, they say, and all the head knowledge we've been accumulating all these years is a big waster of time."  (pp.166-167)

Reeves continues, "Wimber ... first introduced ... the incredibly strange manifestations that are supposedly initiated by the Holy Spirit.  Pogoing (jumping up and down in place), rippling on or under the skin, tingling, shaking, convulsions, uncontrollable laughter, --many of the same mani-
festations traditionally attributed to demonic influence ...  It is shocking and frightening to see the similarities between Wimber's manifestations and what is called Kundalini ..."* (p.167)

* The term for the force that underlies Hindu spirituality.

Holy Laughter:

Reimer's Holy Laughter Thoughts:  Reimer mentions "holy laughter" in his section "Manifesta-
tions of God's Presence."  This is akin, he says, to the disciples being filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit as in Acts 13:52.

Now, from his revival study Reimer declares that "holy laughter" has accompanied many revivals in the past--predating the "holy laughter" in a "revival that had received some press."*  So, surely then holy laughter can be sanctioned maintains Reimer.

*  Reimer fails to name this revival.

Well, one would agree there's been joy and laughter recorded in the past; and as history has recorded, ala Dr. Paul L. King in Genuine Gold, in early circles there was also much controversy about such outbursts.  But, in this day and age, video has recorded the latest rounds of radical laughter showing an out of order circus that resembles Hindu Kundalini manifestations.  One has only to glimpse various videos to see bizarre, unruly, unholy demonstrations that cannot be considered Holy Spirit manifestations!  (pp.96-97)

Reeves' Holy Laughter Thoughts:  Reeves' response to "holy laughter" is graphically described in his chapter: "The Very Last Laugh."  Reeves tells of his church's "unstoppable laughter" where folks were lying topsy turvy, red-faced convulsing hysterically.  (p.127)

As a one-time supporter of such laughter Reeves reflects perhaps this gives him "a one-up" on those who have seen it from the outside.  Reeves relates because of many personal encounters with this phenomena he feels strongly that its source is not of the Lord.  Reeves says, "If these things happened in a bar, we as Christians would be rightly appalled.  But when they occur, and continue to occur ... in the very sanctuary of our churches, then we are expected to look on with indifference and believe that somehow-- in some unfathomable way that was never revealed by our Lord, the apostles, or the prophets of old--that God is at work.  The righteous horror at such fleshly exhibition has faded in the growing shadow of popular Christian myth, fulfilling the Scripture '[A]nd the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. (Exodus 32:6)'"  (p. 137)

Reeves also refers to Warren Smith's intriguing study of "laughter verses" in Scripture where Smith found forty laughter references.  Of these forty, twenty-two referred to scornful laugher.  And seven had to do with the Sarah/Abraham story, while three in the New Testament warn against laughter.  For much more read Smith's booklet: Holy Laughter or Strong Delusion? (p.138)

A Word From God:

Reimer on a Word From God:  Reimer reasserts that he's emphasized one must humbly test what we're hearing.  He writes, "When we receive a Word from God--whether it be a whisper, a picture, a dream, a feeling--the first things we need to do is test it."

How does one do this?  Begin with Scripture first, instructs Reimer.  If that's not clear, test it with Spirit-filled, discerning Christians.  Writes Reimer, "I won't test words with someone who treats prophecy with contempt. ... I will test words with someone who honors prophecy, and walks in humility, and has displayed discernment."  And adds Reimer, "At South Shore Community Church, if I receive a prompting of the Spirit, I test it with other staff members ..."  (pp.69-70)

Recall my Reimer's River Dweller's review where I mention that someone Reimer uses to test "words from the Lord" is a lady associate pastor, who is part of a holistic center called "The Well," where she teaches meditation and spiritual direction.  What a pity Reimer has this lady as his associate pastor, never mind testing prophetic words!

Reimer's section: "Relaying the Messages of God" has this mind-blowing statement:  "Sometimes the Lord will give us a specific word of knowledge we have no human way of knowing for someone who doesn't yet believe, and it will move the person's heart.  Jesus had this kind of encounter with the woman at the well in John chapter 4.  He gets specific knowledge about her--she was married five times before, and the man she was living with now was not her husband.  It is a game changer for her, and she ends up believing because of His prophetic insight."  The Christ, the Messiah gets specific knowledge and has "prophetic insight?"  (p.76)

Reeves on a Word From God:  In Reeves' chapter "The Word of the Lord?" in "Thus Saith ... Who?" he voices the fact that when it comes to false prophecy we've failed big time when it comes to hold-
ing to the plain truth from Scripture.  Reeves quotes Deuteronomy 18:20-22.  He especially notes verse twenty-two: "But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die."  Reeves underlines this noting, "Presumption (i.e., false prophecy) was punishable by death."

In his hyper-charismatic church Reeves pointed out that very few prophecies were ever corrective, but were mostly pleasant.  Reeves also noted that in his camp so called "prophets" were to grow into the prophetic, and could even be sent to so called "Schools of the Prophets" so as to mature in signs and wonders. (p.92)

Reeves writes true Biblical prophecy was never "exploratory," but always spot on the very first time!  And the perfect example, notes Reeves, is the prophet Nathan saying to David, "Thou art the man!"
(p. 96) Contrast that to Reimer who teaches one to ask exploratory questions such as: "Can I ask you a question?" or "Does that mean anything to you?"  (p.61,63 R.D.)

Being Slain in the Spirit:

Reimer on Being Slain in the Spirit:  In "Manifestations of God's Presence" Reimer mentions a mani-
festation that can be seen occurs when people fall under the weight of God's presence.  He notes that in early CMA history there were numerous people falling in prostration as recorded by Paul King in Genuine Gold.  A prime example of being slain in the spirit, states Reimer, would be the Apostle John falling at the feet of Jesus as though dead. (Rev. 1:17)  (p.97)  Note, the question here would be why did John fall down?  And the answer would be, it was in worship.

Reimer relates that during a "Holy Spirit Weekend" they often have such happenings.  For example a big man named Bill felt sure he wouldn't fall, but with one touch from Reimer down he went.  A lady tried to catch him but couldn't.  Bill then began laughing during which Reimer prayed, "Give him more, God!  He's a big man; he needs more.  Fill him up!" (p.98) 

Reeves on Being Slain in the Spirit:  Reeves, after his repeated observations, noted how disorderly much of this phenomena actually was.  He recalled one particular lady who did this rather frequently; only immediately after falling, she'd sit up to straighten her clothing lying back down quickly.  If she was truly under such power puzzled Reeves how could she get up so quickly? This then made him think of men falling atop women, and vice versa.  Reeves then quotes, "Let all things be done decently, and in order." (I Corinthians 14:40) (p.74)

Reeves asks the question, "Where did being slain in the spirit come from?'  Reeves says their favorite answer came from the passage in II Chronicles 5:13-14 where it speaks of the priests not being able to stand to minister by reason of the glory of the Lord.  But reading further on in II
Chronicles 7:1-2 reveals the reason the priests weren't ministering in the house of God was they weren't there at all but outside!  Reeves records, "While charismatic teaching would have us believe the temple was littered with ... incapacitated priests, the Old Testament simply tells us they could not even enter into the area where God had manifested His glory!" (p.77)

Don't miss Lighthouse Trails new booklet: Slain in the Spirit: Is it a Biblical Practice? by Kevin Reeves. 

Some Thoughts on Catholicism:

Reimer on Catholicism:  Into his River mix Reimer inserts references to the monastery where he had many Holy Spirit encounters.  In addition, he refers to St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the  Cross, Brother Lawrence, listening prayer, silence, solitude, monks, Father Robert, R. Thomas Ashbrook's
Mansions of the Heart, Dark Night of the Soul, and more.  Reimer writes just as if these people, and practices are what a-- saved by grace alone-- Christian should emulate, and partake of.  Not once does Reimer warn the reader what Catholicism actually embraces.

Reeves on Catholicism:  Reeves, in contrast, reveals that both he and his wife were saved out of Catholicism.  Speaking of a sermon that he once heard, he recalled that it "focused on the doctrinal abuses within the Catholic Church, spotlighting the specific practices of certain penitent of the Roman clergy.  Priests would abuse their bodies to the point of death with self imposed penance in order to secure acceptance into heaven.  Having spent twenty-four loyal years within the ranks of Roman Catholicism,  ...  I was understandably horrified.  Yet I well knew such abuses were indeed possible.  The Catholic Church's emphasis of salvation through an unceasing battery of good works was a fertile breeding ground for fanaticism." (p.16)

Reeves reports after being entrapped in Catholicism, he and his wife were later so deeply wrapped up in the River Movement that Reeves relates, "Both of us having left one system of that ilk (Roman Catholicism), we had jumped feet first into another, and avoided the liberating message set forth in the Gospel.  As with every religious system outside of the Gospel, do this, don't do that, don't touch, grab for this--a manmade set of rules had rendered the Word of God of no effect." (p.200)

More, More, More!

Reimer on the Pursuit of More:  Reimer writes, "For the past few years I have been seeking more of God.  I have been pursuing and chasing him fervently.  Sometimes I have given up food to pursue God vigorously.  I've gone on longer fasts than before.  Sometimes I have given up sleep to get up in the night to pursue God. ...  I've spent more time in worship, and I've spent more time in solitude and silence.  I have spent large blocks of time alone with God--about every other month I go to a monastery to pursue God for a day or two.  I am on pursuit." (p.41)

Reeves on the Pursuit of More:  Reeves describes his River pursuit saying, "My spiritual legs became heavy from running after every 'wind of doctrine' that blew through our ranks.  There was never a place of satisfaction, that Sabbath rest spoken of in Hebrews 4.  While the anointing we pursued promised be refreshing, all it did was hone, razor-sharp, the craving for another spiritual high.  We at New Covenant were caught up on an unceasing merry-go-round." (p.200)


When Reeves realized he was caught in a web of bondage and deception to the River rituals, he courageously risked all to come out of the River.  And as the back cover of his book reads, "Even though the cost was high and even if he had to stand alone, his journey back into the simplicity of Jesus Christ would be worth the price."   Reimer, on the other hand, each day is taking those he influences --seminary students, church members, and pastors-- deeper into the River.  And while I believe he is very sincere in his desires, following his suggestions will lead one into many deceptions whether it be in the River, or into Catholicism.

In addition, I would like to challenge discerning Christians to consider Reeves' admonitions and warnings reading his book to further inform yourself, your friends, and your family of what the River really is all about!

Learn to Discern Granny Verse:  II Timothy 2:15 

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

For More Information:

Lighthouse Trails Booklets:

False Revival Coming? Part I: Holy Laughter or Strong Delusion?  by Warren B. Smith
Slain in the Spirit: Is it a Biblical Practice?  by Kevin Reeves

Caryl  Productions:

Wide Is the Gate: The Emerging New Christianity  Volume 3  The back of the DVD reads: "This final Volume features the Hyper-Charismatic and Pentecostal Movements represented by a variety of names and leaders.  This supposed 'new move of the Holy Spirit' coined as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is also known as Third Wave, Manifest Sons of God, Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, Word Faith, Fresh Fire, and has many other names!"

Read  These Previous "Learn to Discern Granny" Reviews:

Kevin Reeves' Riveting Story of His River Movement Exit: A Review of The Other Side of the River
River of Life, or River of Deception?  A Review of Dr. Rob Reimer's River Dwellers



Monday, July 6, 2015

River of Life, or River of Deception? A Review of Dr. Rob Reimer's River Dwellers

River of Life, or River of Deception?  A Review of Dr. Rob Reimer's River Dwellers

Christian and Missionary Alliance professor, pastor, and author Dr. Rob Reimer has recently written a book entitled River Dwellers: Living in the Fullness of the Spirit.  Now, Reimer's mission seems to be to immerse himself multiple times in deep encounters in the River, and to take as many as possible with him.  And our mission must be to ask exactly what "River" is Reimer referencing?  How is Reimer doing this?  Just who is Reimer influencing?  Who has impacted, and is impacting Reimer?  And above all, is he pursuing a "River of Life," or a "River of Deception?"


Reimer's close friend Dr. Ron Walborn, Dean of the Alliance Theological Seminary, describes Rob's pursuit this way: "... Rob is a man who is hungry for God and will jump into the River every chance he gets ... he likes to cannonball into the River so he can get as many people wet as possible!"  Other endorsers include: Rev. Tom Ward, Rev. Jeff Norris, and Rev. Tom Mangham.  (p.2)


The book, self-published, has an introduction, five chapters, and a conclusion.  Like Pathways to the King that I previously reviewed, River Dwellers has no endnotes, nor index which often makes it difficult to trace exactly where Reimer's references and quotes come from.  However, the sermon podcasts and facebook of CMA South Shore Community Church, Brockton, MA as well as Reimer's twitter and facebook fill us in on the complete picture. (p.11)

Very First Verse:

Reimer's very first verse is Ezekiel 47:9:  "Where the river flows everything will live." (p.12)


His introduction highlights Rob's passion for pursuing the baptism of the Spirit.  As this has been a controversial topic, writes Reimer, we should put aside our previous mindset and as the early disciples were "Spirit people," we should be less concerned about our personal viewpoint, and recall that the early church "lived out of the book of Acts."  Additionally, Reimer says, "The key to remaining in the fullness of the Spirit is dwelling in the River of Life." (pp.15-16)

Reimer's Continuous Encounters:

In chapter one Reimer reiterates his viewpoint that the baptism of the Spirit is more than a one time event, and that we can have more than one encounter.  He states he seeks God often for fresh encounters, and fresh fillings.  (p.26)

Reimer's Multiple Monastery Encounters:

Exactly, where has Reimer had "multiple encounters?"  Well, it is at "the monastery" where Reimer regularly retreats.  Which monastery is that?  It is the Holy Trinity Monastery in Petersham, MA.
This monastery is run by the Maronite Monks of Adoration who are eucharistic, contemplative, and cloistered.  The guest master is Rev. Robert Nortz (Father Robert to Rob) with whom Reimer has conferred. (p.26)

Reimer refers to "the monastery" nearly ten times in the book.  Readers, this monastery's main purpose is to engage in eucharistic adoration where each monk, in addition to group adoration, must worship the eucharistic wafer two hours per day.  Click here to view Holy Trinity's short video showing the monks at worship, and at work.

A look into Holy Trinity's online "Constitution" lists rule after rule the monks must obey in order to work their way to heaven.  It is beyond sad that Reimer can recommend this monastery suggesting that this is a wonderful place to find the Savior and draw close to him--for here is idolatry at its saddest--the worship of a wafer over and over.  For Scripture says in Hebrews 10:14: "For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified."

Reimer's Monastery References:

"I have had multiple encounters with God at the monastery where I go for spiritual retreats which have strengthened me, challenged me, and changed me." (p.26)
"I have spent larger blocks of time alone with God... I go to a monastery to pursue God ... I am on pursuit."  (p.41)
"The monastery is very quiet and remote. ...  Often as I drive onto the campus, I can feel the Spirit of God refreshing me.  It is like taking a deep breath of fresh, clean air." (p.111)
"... I went to talk to one of the monks ...  The monks and I don't agree about all theological points, but we do agree about the most important thing: our love for Jesus and for people.  It saddens me that so many people cannot learn from anyone if they disagree with them. I went to Father Robert, who was the guest master ..." (p.113) 
"One day I spoke at the seminary (Alliance Theological Seminary), and I told this story about my encounter with Father Robert. ..." (p.114)
"I had just finished a ten-day stint at the seminary teaching Soul Care to doctoral students ... I had scheduled some time at the monastery on the heels of this season. ..." (p.139)
"I sensed the Lord calling me to go into the chapel and sit in silence. ..." (p.140)
"I want to be in the River of Life when I am alone with God for days at the monastery ..." (p.145)
" ... and I had read R. Thomas Ashbrook's book, Mansions of the Heart.  The first time I read Ashbrook's book, I was at the monastery." (p.159)  

What a travesty that Reimer sees the monastery as a refuge, and its monks as ones who can advise him, rather than a mission field he needs to influence.

Reimer's Nun Prophecy:

A  "My Monastery" story Reimer told, illustrating the gift of prophecy, was given on May 19, 2013 in his "Manifestation Gifts" sermon.  In it Reimer reported that he had attended a morning chapel service where he noticed a nun. Now encountering a nun was unusual, as Holy Trinity has only monks.  But the Lord seemed, related Reimer, to signal that he was to tell this nun that God was pleased with her, and that she was on the right track vocationally. This Reimer did when he met her once again in the sitting room.  How strange Reimer should share a prophecy with a nun he didn't know rather than the gospel!  Something truly is amiss here!

Reimer's Spirit People:

Reimer writes during a series of meetings where he and his colleagues were teaching on the baptism of the Spirit that they asked only "spirit filled people" to be  part of their prayer team.  Reimer said, "The people who were hungry for God stood to receive prayer, and these River Dwellers laid hands on people, and prayed for them." This elite group were Reimer's Spirit people. (pp.32-33)

Reimer's Passionate Pursuit:

Reimer's favorite word is "pursuit." Over and over the words "pursue," and "pursuit" pop out.  Pursue what?  Rob stresses we're to pursue an initial infilling, and then continuous encounters of the Spirit.  Once you've found "it," he contends, you will witness, have power, and do prophesy.  Will you speak in tongues?    Maybe, says Reimer, but it is not an evidence of being baptized in the Spirit. (pp.28-38)

Reimer's Recent Pursuitcast Interview:

Sam Won, a 2011 ATS grad who is part of the pastoral staff of "The Sycamore of the CMA," first interviewed his former professor Dr. Rob Reimer, upon the publication of Pathways to the King
on April 4, 2014 Pursuitcast.  Then again, Sam recently interviewed Reimer after the publication of
River Dwellers.  Listen here:

Sam's "Pursuit, New York City":

Pursuitcast Sam, so influenced by Reimer, is part of "Pursuit, NYC" whose vision "revival or bust" is for metropolitan NYC area.  They pursue: "His Kingdom. His transformation in us and our city. To win cities, to disciple nations, to father a generation, to transform a world, and to usher in the return of the King."

What is "Pursuit, NYC" doing this summer?  "Pursuit Summer Thursdays" gives us the scoop listing activities such as: June 18: Compelled by Love (Heidi Baker documentary); July 2: Soaking; July 9: Treasure Hunting*; July 23: Holy Ghost Documentary; and August 6: Fire in the Night.

* From Bethel Church Web Page:  "About Treasure Hunts: "Treasure Hunts incorporate words of knowledge (clues) that you write on your Treasure Map to find Treasures (people) who need a supernatural encounter with God through an encouraging prophetic word or healing."

Sam's Redding, California Pursuit:

It is noteworthy to say Sam himself, in 2014, went on a pursuit!  Where did Sam go?  Sam's 7-6-14 Sycamore sermon details how he flew to California to interview Redding's CMA Risen King Pastor
Bill Randles, as well as the Risen King church plant pastor Nathan Edwardson of the CMA's "The Stirring Church" (Sister church to Bethel!!)*  Besides these interviews Sam attended a Bethel Church conference during which time he had his picture taken with Bethel's "Bill Johnson."  Sam noted too that around Redding there's an "Open Heaven" meaning there are no hindrances.

Is Sam for real?  Yes, Sam seems like a sincere, affable Korean CMA pastor who has most certainly been influenced by Reimer, ATS, and his denomination into the NAR River.

* The Stirring: CMA Church closely tied to Bill Johnson's Bethel.   "The Stirring" staff pastor Jim Bailey, by the way, spoke at "The Deeper Life Conference" at Nyack in February, 2015.

Reimer's Church Seeks "Open Heavens:"
South Shore Community Church CMA also uses the term "open heavens"  on their church facebook on 1-15:  "Let's all join together and pray for a breakthrough and for open heavens in our region!" and "Will you contend as Pastor Rob taught, for a spiritual shift?  Take a few minutes today ... to pray that God would push back the darkness and open the heavens in our region.  We need a spiritual shift in the heavenly realms."  Prior to this on 9-9-12 Reimer taught about "open heavens" in a sermon "Open Doors, Open Hearts."

Reimer's Weighty Words:

The more power you get through numerous encounters, teaches Reimer, the more you'll notice that your words grow weightier!  Reimer attests, "When we are walking in the fullness of the Spirit, the presence of God adds a weightiness to our words, that is clearly supernatural." (p.28)

Reimer's Search for More:

Like his book Pathways to the King Reimer is into a frenzied pursuit of endless experiences chasing more of God.  He's fasted, slept less, and sat in solitude and silence.  He's been to the monastery regularly.  As Rob says, "I am on the pursuit."  Because of this writes Rob, "I've noticed that when I pray for people, more people are experiencing God's love.  More people are healed.  There has been an increase in power." (p.41)

Reimer's Impartation Quest:

In order to get more of God Reimer encourages one to receive prayer, and the laying on of hands.  Reimer states, "I love being prayed for and having people lay hands on me.  When I go to confer-
ences or when I get around people of anointing and spiritual power, * I ask them to lay hands on me and pray for me.  I want more of God, ..."

Reimer adds, "I have had people from evangelical and charismatic circles lay hands on me ... I've had world renown leaders pray for me, who were anointed by God and who impacted my life through their work ..."  (p.43)

*  My emphasis.

Reimer's 2013 Randy Clark Family Trip:

In a June 16, 2013 sermon, "Expanding Our Umbrella of Authority II," Reimer shares that he and his family were especially anxious to join a NAR Randy Clark Global Awakening Missions group going to Brazil.  There he looked forward to obtaining an impartation from Randy himself!  Did Reimer secure that impartation?  He does not say.  But, he does indicate he traveled to villages in Brazil doing healing. (p.34)  He also relates, "That summer, as part of our pursuit of revival, Jen and I went on a missions trip to a place where God was pouring out His Spirit; we were both praying and hoping for a fresh touch from God.  We saw many miracles, but the fresh touch we were personally hoping for did not come, ..." (p.154)

Reimer's Heidi Baker Impartation Story:

In the same South Shore 6-13 sermon Reimer relates the astounding story of Heidi Baker and her amazing impartation received from Randy Clark where she was "laid out" for seven days.  Readers, recall Maddy, the Alliance Theological seminarian, whom Reimer mentored, also ended up at a Randy Clark assignment in Brazil where she wrote she had listened to a "Mama Heidi" program.  And now this summer, for Pursuit NYC Summer Thursdays, Pursuitcast Sam is showing a Heidi Baker movie.

In answer to the question: "Is a transferable anointing scriptural?" read: "Is the Anointing Tangible and Transferable; Can We Impart It?" from "Let Us Reason"; or view Volume III of Caryl Matriciana's "Wide Is the Gate" Section 4:"God Chasers and Mystery Schools" with its informative material on impartations, mantles, and laying on of hands.

Reimer's Dialogical Relationship:

Reimer asserts in order for our relationship with the Lord to grow, it must become dialogical.  Yes, we hear through scripture, says Reimer, but God speaks directly to us through the Spirit.  Reimer then launches into "the six ways God speaks to us directly." (pp.53,56)

Reimer's Whisper Risks:

The first way, states Reimer, that we hear God speak is through whispers.  For more information Reimer suggests we read: Bill Hybel's The Power of a Whisper.   However, I would recommend instead one read: "Hush! Whispers at Willow Creek: A Review of Bill Hybel's Book: The Power of a Whisper" found at:

Reimer goes on to advise, "One way to become attuned to these whispers is to take risks with them.
Did you notice the word "attuned?"  Is this term scriptural?  New Age? (pp.56-57)

Reimer's Audible Voice Teaching:

As Reimer asserted in his Pathways to the King book, so once again, he reasserts here that he has heard God speak aloud to him.  He writes, "Sometimes God speaks in an audible voice."  He continues, "Whenever I speak to an audience about prophecy, I ask how many have heard the audible voice of God, and it is not uncommon to see one quarter of the hands go up.  God speaks." (p.58)

Reimer's Audible Voice Quote:

Reimer uses Word of Faith Joyce Meyer's quote where she declares she's heard the audible voice of God several times.  The quote, undocumented in the book (pp.59-60), is taken from the "Introduction" to Joyce Meyer's book: How to Hear From God. (p. VIII)  In this same book Meyer teaches about the "rhema word" of God.

Reimer's "Does This Mean Anything to You?  Can I Ask You a Question?"

Reimer goes on to say God speaks to us via pictures in dreams and visions.  Reimer shares when he receives certain words or pictures he tests things out by asking leading questions such as: "Does this mean anything to you?" or "Can I ask you a question?"  And I want to ask a question: "In which chapter in Scripture can one find this method practiced?" (pp.61-63)

Reimer's Compassion Prophecy:

Another way God speaks, suggests Reimer, is to our body or emotions.  Reimer says that sometimes before he gives a prophetic word, he'll feel a rush of God's compassion.  He tells a story of such a time when he approached a lady saying, "I have a word from the Lord for you.  She said, 'Tell me.'  I said, 'It isn't here yet, but I can tell is coming, because I can feel the Father's compassion for you.'"  This went on for months.  Finally, relates Remer, the message came.  Thought: Did God's prophets operate on the installment plan?  (p.65)

Reimer's Mind's Eye Word:

Yet another way God speaks, instructs Reimer, is by giving one a word in our mind's eye.  As an example, Reimer retells Wimber's Power Evangelism story about Wimber's airplane "adultery" word.  Reimer also mentions Wimber's anecdotes in his South Shore sermons.  In one sermon, incidentally, he mentions that his good friend Ron Walborn had an increased gift of healing due
to a Wimber impartation. (pp.66-67)

Reimer's "Our Knower:"

Lastly, Reimer says God speaks to our spirit enlightening us with something we'd never know.  So when Reimer prays for someone, he listens.  He says, "Theology 101: 'God is smart, and He knows
stuff we don't know ... He likes to tell us what He knows.'" (p.68)  However, Samuel 2:2,3 says, "There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: ... Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed."

Reimer's Many Kinds of Manifestations:

In the section "Manifestations of God's Presence", Reimer lists various manifestations which occur  when the Spirit comes on someone producing bodily reactions.  Reimer discusses "holy laughter," and "prostration" as mentioned in historian CMA's Paul King's book Genuine Gold*

*  Look for later review of Dr. Paul L. King's books: Genuine Gold and Come Up Higher.

Reimer's Connection with Dr. Paul L. King:

CMAers should become familiar with Dr. King for he, along with the pastoral trio of Walborn, Reimer, and Sanders, desires to lead the Alliance back into the River via Holy Spirit Revival.
The pressing question becomes which River are these men taking the Alliance to?  Unfortunately,
from all I have read, and researched the answer will be the "New Apostolic Reformation River!"

Therefore, I would encourage Alliance readers to inform themselves about who Dr. King is, who he is associated with, and what his books say.  And even more importantly one should, regardless of denomination, arm yourselves with knowledge as to what the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) is
all about for most assuredly it is not a River one wants to be immersed in!

Dr. King recently twittered he'd been blessed to receive a copy of Reimer's River Dwellers on his birthday.  In addition he posted a photo of the book.  Reimer, in turn, had a link to Dr. King on his facebook page.  Both men closely follow the same agenda. And I might also add both are linked to Randy Clark.  Dr. King's books, and picture can be found on Clark's Global Awakening site; and Dr. King is now a mentor to Randy Clark doctoral scholars.  For much more information please look for my upcoming King book reviews.

Reimer's Prophecy Testing Suggestions:

Reimer says to humbly test everything to see if it of God.  Reimer writes, "First, test it with Scripture.  ... test it with mature believers who are living in the fullness of the Spirit and have discernment. ... test words with someone who honors prophecy and walks in humility, and has displayed discernment."  Reimer adds, "At South Shore Community Church if I receive a prompting of the Spirit, I test it with other staff members and members of the board." (pp.69-70)

Now, one of Reimer's staff is Associate Pastor Deb Bellvue.  Bellvue, however is a spiritual director, and meditation teacher for an organization known as The Well.  The Well*, run by Katherine Forbes-
Smith also a South Shore member, is anything but a well of living water!  For it lists activities as Saturday Morning Meditation (mindfulness, relaxation, stress relief), massage therapy, yoga, and more.  And Reimer tests things with Bellvue?  Sad indeed!

*The Well Facebook Meditation Ads:  1-15: Two upturned hands; Touts relaxation, deeper spirituality...; Contact . Bellvue; 2-15: Meditation 101: Learn the what, why, and hows of meditation under the guidance of D. Bellvue; 5-15: Saturday Morning Meditation; Experience mindfulness, relaxation, stress relief; South Shore Facebook: 5-22-15: "Did you know Pastor D. Bellvue leads a prayerful meditation group at the well?"  Note: Well Wording Vs. Church Wording!

Reimer's Reading of Tozer's Mystics: 

Reimer shares that he has read many Tozer books, and that Tozer himself read "Christian Classics" by such ancient writers as Brother Lawrence, Teresa of Avila, and St. John of the Cross.
Reimer indicates, "These saints who have gone before me stir the longings within me for God himself."  (p.110)  However, Reimer fails to mention "these saints" were all Roman Catholics.

Reimer's Dark Night of the Soul:   

In Rob's final chapter: "Twists in the River Bend" he details how he was floundering to stay "in the River."  He writes, "But, for the first time in my life, for an extended period of time, God was nowhere to be found." (P.159)

Rob goes on, "Fortunately, I had read St. John of the Cross's work: Dark Night of the Soul and I had read R. Thomas Ashbrook's book: Mansions of the Heart.  Rob continues, that he so resonated with Ashbrook's description of how to achieve a deeper union with God.  (p.160)

While reading Ashrook's depiction of "the dark night of the soul" Reimer sobbed, and said to the Lord, "I have been in your presence so long I can't imagine living without you. ... I don't want to be with without your Presence. Please."  (p.160)  Later, following Ashbrook's prescription Rob too had his dark night.

Is the dark night of the soul scriptural? answers, "A believer has God's peace now; he doesn't have to experience a 'dark night' first. (Romans 5:1) ... Neither Jesus nor the apostles ever taught a 'dark night' of the soul."


Has Rob been leading people into a "River of Life," or into a "River of Deception"?  In the end, I would have to conclude that his drift into the New Apostolic Reformation river sweeps his readers, students, church, and pastoral associates into a swirling eddy of deception. Throw in his Catholic leanings, and what a polluted river it becomes.  Unfortunate this is, for Rob seems to sincerely desire a deeper walk with the Lord; but with his frantic pursuit he, as his close friend Ron Walborn declared, has gotten, and is getting many others saturated in the process--very often not in a "River of Life," but a "River of Deception."

Learn to Discern Granny Verse:  I John 4:1

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

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Watch for:  Upcoming blog contrasting Kevin Reeves' The Other Side of the River with Rob Reimer's River Dwellers.